Sun 18 Nov 2007
I may have to contact The Ethicist about this
Posted by sandi under real life
We have suffered an outrage, my little circle of friends and I. An ethical outrage.
We’ve had our hearts broken by our favorite consignment shop…and while I know lots worse is happening to people every minute and this wouldn’t even make the Top Ten of Bad Things that happened, probably even on my street, still…when your heart is broken, your heart is broken.
OK, about this consignment shop. Shopping here is actually lots more fun than shopping at regular stores–mostly because you never know what you’ll find, and most of the time you come home with something that you probably wouldn’t have ever even looked at in a “real” store. Last winter I bought a faux-shearling coat there FOR TWENTY DOLLARS that I loved so much I couldn’t wait for winter to come again, just so I could wear it and think again about how it had only cost twenty dollars.
And I got a red cashmere sweater that I never would have bought–not in RED, at least. But it’s fine…it’s more than fine. It’s soft and bright, and in the store, I probably would have gone for the boring blue one or the white one, but hey this one is RED. It announces itself. And it was FIFTEEN DOLLARS, but it’s real cashmere and doesn’t even have any of those little pills yet on it.
I could go on. I’ve been shopping there for years, and most of the really good things in my closet came from there–and then every now and then, when I’m organized, I pile things in a box and take them down there and trade them in and get new stuff.
It’s like the best thing there is, retail shopping-wise.
Until my heart got broken, that is.
So here’s how it happened. First of all, the rule at this shop is that when an item has been there for 30 days, it then goes on sale for half price. This, of course, even makes consignment shopping MORE fun. You go in there, fall in love with something–but then sometimes you just have to take the chance that it will be reduced. It’s like a little gambling game you’re playing, the thrill of the deal.
And you might lose. I have lost very many times, and kicked myself HARD over not having the good sense to buy something immediately and pay the full price for it.
So–oh yes, back to how it happened: my friend Leslie fell three-quarters in love with a coat there a few weeks ago. I say three-quarters in love because there wasn’t really a question of paying full price for it. She loved it, but she wasn’t going all lovesick about it. It was a perfectly wonderful, kind of Mary Poppins-ish coat–long and black with kind of an indent at the waist, which looked divine on Leslie. But $68! We agreed it looked great on her, but it was too much.
AND it was going to go on sale in only two weeks from the date we discovered it, so it seemed, all in all, worth it to wait this one out. Only then, as often happens, we both became a little obsessed with the coat. Leslie couldn’t stop thinking about it. She went in to visit it a few times, just to make sure it was still there. And I stopped in once or twice, too, just to see it once again and say hello to it and “I hope I see you soon, in Leslie’s closet.”
Then, on the day before it was to drop to $34, we both drove by the consignment shop with the intention of going in just one more time, just to make sure. The store had a CLOSED sign in the window–no customers, but you could see the workers doing renovations inside.
Had the coat survived right up until the last possible moment, with no one plunking down $68? Maybe it had!
Leslie called me that night. She had an important meeting the next morning–but she wondered if I had the time to go by when the store opened and buy the coat for her. “If it’s not there, don’t worry about it,” she said. “But I really hope it is.”
Well, I couldn’t wait. I went to the gym early in the morning and left in time to get to the consignment shop before it opened. It seemed imperative to be the first customer through the door! I tell you, I was psyched for this. I sat in the car until they turned the sign to OPEN, and then hurried in. And–yay!–there was the coat, hanging near the cash register.
“Oh!” I said. “Wonderful!! It’s here! That coat–Leslie’s coat…”
The owner, Kristin, said, ”Oh, that coat is reserved. You can’t have it.”
“Reserved?” I said. “Really? Oh, no, I didn’t realize people can call in and reserve items that are going on sale.”
Kristin said, “Well, as it happens, the person who wants it didn’t call in. She actually came into the store and reserved it.”
“But when?” I said. “It just went on sale three minutes ago.”
So, okay, I didn’t say that. Instead I said something like, “Oh, my friend Leslie is going to be so disappointed. She really wanted that coat so much.”
She said, “Well, it’s reserved. Too bad. The other woman was first.” And she walked away. End of conversation.
NOW HOW COULD SHE BE FIRST IF THE COAT WAS SUPPOSEDLY FULL PRICE UNTIL JUST THAT MOMENT?
After I left, I coudn’t decide if I should just tell Leslie the coat was already sold and leave it at that. But of course, I was so mad by the time I talked to her later in the afternoon that I spilled out the whole unjust story.
And then Leslie was so upset that she actually drove to the store, where, to make matters feel even worse, the coat was still hanging behind the cash register. She tried in her very nice way to find out for herself what had happened. (Leslie is sort of friendly with Kristin in a way that I’ve never been able to be. Kristin doesn’t seem to remember me from time to time; we always have to start over at the beginning of our acquaintanceship. You know how that is sometimes; I’m sort of invisible to her.)
So Leslie explained how badly she wanted the coat, and Kristin, without ever saying she was sorry OR that the other woman was her friend, just kept saying, “Well, this woman really, really wanted it!” as though that made the difference.
Now here’s the thing. Obviously the consignment business belongs to the shop owner, and she can sell the pieces to whoever she pleases. And if, as likely happened, her BFF came in and said, “Oh, I adore that coat–when it comes on sale, if it’s not already taken, please hold it for me,” and she did–well, I might have done the same thing for a friend. I could see that happening.
BUT…it’s also true that the consignment business is a system of trust. When we bring in our clothing for her to sell, we trust her to set the price fairly and then to be honest about when it sold, and then to divide the money as we’ve agreed. Nobody checks up on her. Nobody says, “Saaaay, why did you mark my Aunt Lucy’s trousers at $5 when you could have gotten $20 for them?” And nobody EVER says, “Gee, I really thought that silk blouse I brought in sold for full price, and you’re telling me it hung around here until it went so far down you just had to donate it?
I’m just saying.
Until now, I’ve trusted her to do the right thing: to set the prices fairly and to split the money the way she’s supposed to.
And now…well, now, I wonder if she doesn’t cut corners, and play favorites with the customers.
Because it IS a system of trust, I think she has to be extra careful not to have it look as though she’d not playing by the rules she set. She has to be scrupulously honest so that we all feel taken care of. The used clothing business, after all, can turn pretty tawdry if you’re not careful. There’s a certain psychology to it.
Maybe, as someone said, her only real mistake was not putting the coat in the back room where Leslie and I couldn’t see it still there when we came in to buy it. Or maybe it would have been better if she’d said to us, “Oh my goodness, I’m so sorry! But my friend wanted that coat so badly, and I didn’t realize anybody else was looking for it, too!” Maybe that would have helped. I don’t know.
But now…well, cashmere sweaters and faux shearling coats or not, I can’t help but feel she’s breached our trust. And Leslie is now saying she doesn’t ever want to shop there ever again.
What do you think? Should we: (1) write her a letter explaining how disgruntled we are, (2) just stop going there…or (3) take this as a sign that the world runs in crooked little ways sometimes, and just put things on reserve if we want them next time?
I really, really want to know what you think.





November 19th, 2007 at 12:15 am
Hi there!
I’m posting on this because I have experience working in those kinds of shops. Where I worked, we had very hard and fast rules about what we could and couldn’t do - and that includes holding things for people. That’s a no-no because it’s not fair and it gives the employees a one-up on the customer.
Sure, we could call our friends/parents on our breaks and beg them to come buy something we put on the shelf (it was frowned upon, but everyone did it) but no one was allowed to hold. It’s just plain unfair.
It makes the customer feel cheated and second best, which you never, ever want to do. Period.
I would do a combination of one and two. Explain why you loved the store, what happened, and how you feel about what happened. (Feel free to use anything I’ve said in this comment as well. I’m rather peeved, too, for your and your friend’s sake.) Who knows, maybe someone else spoke up about the same behavior and management is just waiting for someone else to say something.
November 19th, 2007 at 3:14 pm
Thank you, JM. It’s good to get the perspective of somebody who’s worked in this kind of shop. I think that’s a really good idea, to write her a letter. In fact, I don’t think we’re going to be able to keep silent about this. And you hit the nail on the head: what we feel is that we feel somehow “second best”–not like welcome customers anymore. It’s taken the fun out of shopping there.
And she should know that for the future. Her business is really based on the place having a good reputation and being fun to go to!
November 19th, 2007 at 4:44 pm
This is bad behavior. It is bad for a business to skirt (!) agreed-upon rules. And it is even worse to be snippy or unsympathetic with a customer who is even a little unhappy. I think she was snippy because she knew she’d done something wrong in putting that coat on hold for another customer.
Put the issue to her clearly and in writing. Give her a chance to make good. If she doesn’t, alas, it’s time to find another magical shop.
November 19th, 2007 at 8:28 pm
Yes. It’s me. THE Leslie who “lost” (as opposed to “won”) the Mary Poppins coat. First, I know ya’ll are out there thinking, what in the heck does anyone want with a Mary Poppins-ish coat anyway? But I am a curvy girl and that thing, with its handsome, fitted waistline, looked great on me. Ask Sandi! Besides, I already have the black umbrella and the bottomless brocade satchel…
Sandi did such a great job of telling the story that I have but one thing to add/correct: I don’t think MOST of us are invited to put anything on reserve/hold/save at that shop. Not that I know of. When I was standing there all dejected and coatless at the counter, I asked, “Oh, you DO that? You hold things?? I could do that??” Kristen didn’t answer except to shrug and say, “I know her really, really well.” She never even said “friend”, come to think of it.
I know that I sound childish for saying I’m not going back. (I want to thank JM and bloglily for figuring in our favor, by the way.) Please understand, I have had good times at this place, often with my friends and my daughter. My closet is just like Sandi’s: home to a lot of really great clothes that came from this place. It’s a loss. In many ways I’m punishing myself for the owner’s bad behavior. But this is about more than principle and the whole consignment game. I can’t imagine being comfortable in there again. It’s not the same for me anymore.
The good part of a bad story: My friend Sandi didn’t even hesitate when I asked her to go down there for me that morning. She just said, “Oh! Yes! And I’ll be the first one there! I promise.” And she was.
What a pal!
Leslie~in search of magical shops!
November 21st, 2007 at 2:24 pm
Leslie,
Don’t just stop going there. You must let her KNOW that she is losing customers by this dastardly way of doing business!!!!
Beth
November 21st, 2007 at 9:06 pm
I think all of you are right. Bloglily and Beth, I am actually going to write her a letter. Maybe I’ll just print out this blog post and the comments and take those in. Thank you for siding with us. You know sometimes when some injustice is done like this, you start to feel as though you’re being petty somehow to mind. But Leslie and I were talking the other day; we feel so supported by all of you! Thank you. And now we just need to find another store…
November 26th, 2007 at 1:20 pm
Motion to add option #4- Egg the place and send her a nasty letter explaining that you won’t be shopping there anymore and that you hope her “friend” gained so much weight over Thanksgiving that she can’t even wear the jacket anymore! As an added touch you could put a “spoonful of sugar” in the envelope, afterall it does help the medicine go down….. Just kidding, well mostly anyway. There is a children’s consignment shop in our town that makes me so furious, I can’t even go in there anymore. They pay you up front for your items and then charge 5 times what they paid you for it. Their “quotes” are downright insulting, and it’s like the college girls that work there just pick a random price according to their mood that day. For example a good hair day might get you $5 for those size 2t Gap jeans (that are in perfect condition mind you), but a spat with her boyfriend the night before might get you only $2- very frustrating, I’d rather just donate it, and so I do!
November 27th, 2007 at 7:32 am
I would write her a whole book! That’s just so ridiculously unfair and cruel…and to think she had it hanging behind the register…as if she was just rubbing it in your face!
November 27th, 2007 at 11:27 pm
I think we should all march on the place!
Samantha, you are on to something with the way these consignment shop people run their businesses. We obviously have to try harder to be their best friends.
And Kat…you’ll come with me, won’t you? Bring Travis and Kaylie and we’ll show them a thing or two!